August 11, 2007
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I enjoyed reading this in some ones blog …..
One theme that runs through much of what is being considered and used by my fellow travelers is the idea that we create our reality.
My reaction to this idea varies from day to day.
I certainly think we influence the reality we experience.
I do not however accept the idea that we create our reality in its broadest interpretation.
I would say in fact that that thought grates on my last nerve.
Alan Watts devoted much attention to this distinction …
and if he were alive to comment on this observations …
just perhaps it would sound a bit like this.
Any description of reality is inherently something of a hoax…
For reality is a tricky word.
On the one hand there is the real world
and on the other
there is whole system of symbols about that world
we have in our minds….
This normally unnoticed distinction
gives rise to our feeling of separate- ness from the universe…
Yet this artificial distinction is a ‘feeling’
and not a ‘real’ difference at all,
and in fact just a philosophical concept.
When people mistake the symbols we use…
for the reality towards which those symbols point they confuse
The world As it Is
With the world as they think about it.
and talk about it and describe it.
Reality however, is not a concept.
The idea that we create our reality
Is a concept that certainly to appeals to our dualistic mind … our ego …
And it is true enough…that
In the quantum soup of what we see as the illusion of ’things’ and ‘events’…
We do in fact descrying things as we believe/expect them to be
Just as we would project images on to a Rorschach blot
or as we create the images with our mind’s eye
from the pixels on this monitor….
that form what you are seeing now
So in just such a way … people believe they create the reality around them
When the difference between myself/yourself and the rest of the universe
…..is nothing more than an idea…
and not a /Real/ difference at all
Comments (12)
isnt it interesting
that the intensity of ideas can sometimes cause friction or intimacy depending
but then it’s all the same isn’t it…is… :wave:
We might not create all of reality but we are constantly dancing with reality.
I know nothing about reality:(…I live a very unreal world…compared to others…of course..but you might be right…everything is an idea…or concept:spinning:[am I getting mixed up here?:rolleyes:]
I am curious, then, where you draw the distinction between manifestation and creating reality? Such as when you manifested the information you needed in order to find the vein of amethyst you were mining? The language in all of this, our ability to comprehend the incomprehensible,does get confusing; yet I know how we think, how we feel does make a difference (because that is testable by experience).
~ds
“We experience what we believe. If we don’t believe that we experience what we believe, then we don’t, which still means the first statement is true.” Harry Palmer
I came by late last night and realized I was too sleepy to take the ideas expressed here in much less respond to them,my own personal awareness being somewhat compromised by my brain’s determination to shift gears Sleep however has rendered me fit to think and consider…I remember being a kid the first time the color question popped into my head. I had just learned about color blindness in a book and I found myself wondering if my brother ,who is not color blind ,and I both saw something as red did red really look the same to both of us?This question of course brought with it a bunch of entertaining ,weird ,and big thoughts ,all revolving around the nature of what is versus what we experience .The question of Time joined in the fray too.I knew immediately what I most likely will never know. it was cool.To think its all so much bigger then me.
I have decided that I know enough to communicate with my kind but not enough to understand things on a broader scale. I do not see myself as the center of my universe simply because my ability to think resides in language and language is a product of mind meeting mind,and common agreements about what is.There is no way my reality as I know it could exist without the collective influence of human kind.We too could not perceive that we exist without physical conduits for information ,and these are limited leaving me convinced that we see, as it were ,through a glass darkly.I find that by considering what happens when physical senses are hindered we can begin to understand just how fragile our grasp of what is is.My father’s world shrunk and faded as his brain succumbed to dementia but his words ,the ones he wrote when whole still act in their full power.I can read his books and he is very much there , mind meeting mind ..in the now.We want to explain it all and I don’t think we can which is a good thing. We are a dangerous species and our influence should be limited by life span and biology.
On some level it is all about the words we choose to express our ideas. This post on one level is very similar to mine today, well maybe on all levels. Where have you been Love?
Have a great day.
Love in life
Mara :heartbeat: :love:
reality is influence.
reality is in fluence.
yes, I know “fluence” isn’t a word in reality, and that a proper rendering would be “fluidity.” But this is an idea, isn’t it? Which makes it my reality… and by sharing it here, it becomes our reality. Thus influence is in fluence, creating reality. Always present; always moving.
Reality – a River runs through it.
:sunny:
wow i am feeling that
I just read your comment about your daughter and my post. I noticed how long ago I wrote that and it was nice to read it again and realize how much I’ve grown. Ironically, I bumped into that guy last week! I walked away scratching my head and wondering why I subjected myself to all that mess. Of course, I know the answer – which is how I moved past the behavior.
I’m much older than your daughter and it took me decades to break that pattern. If I may be so bold to say: the key was in my relationship with my dad. That may not be true with her, but I would humbly suggest that you consider this possibility.
In my case, I had deceived myself that my father was unavailable. I played out a drama for years based on that lie that I had made my reality. In fact, it turned out that I was the one who was unavailable to my father and unable to accept him for the person that he was. Unfortunately, pain was the touchstone for growth for me and I had to endure and create a lot of it to move past this.
Good luck to you and your daughter!
“I would say in fact that that thought grates on my last nerve..”
i think at this moment i’m too tired to make any sort of coherent comment…but i will say that as of late i feel like i’ve been studying this sort of thing too much…maybe thinking too much? i dunno :: shrugs :: i feel like after all the reading and meditating, etc., i’m still just as lost as when if first began. :rolleyes:
the closest thing there is to “reality” is in the flow ~~~~ good post like a goldie oldie polished & spit shined good to see you doing equations :coolman: